Are environmentalists serious?

Are campaigners for the environment destined to forever focus on symptoms of the cancer-ridden political economy? Over-use of resources, ecological destruction and pollution are all symptoms of a diseased economy and you can't cure disease by treating symptoms.

The current political economy harbours a devastating tumour (or economa) at its heart - interest on money. Daily Pickings has often referred to interest or usury being a primary driver of inequality but it is also a primary driver of environmental destruction and yet seldom do environmental campaigns mention usury or interest.

Interest drives exponential growth which is unsustainable in terms of: resource depletion, environmental destruction and pollution. 3% per annum GDP growth means the economy doubles every 24 years - we don't have enough planets to sustain us into the future.

Interest based Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) calculations underpin all business and project plans because economic success is premised on a time value for money. The quicker corporations extract and consume resources, creating more waste, the more money they make. DCF discounts our future because corporations (and ultimately the Structural Elite) make money out of money rather than by creating wealth. Interest is a systemic means of extracting wealth from those who create it (the seven billion people on the planet) while driving money exponentially upwards to the top of the wealth pyramid.

You only have to observe corporate cash management to understand the role that time plays in the value of money. For example: large corporations delay payments to suppliers (many, well over 60 days), yet most demand money for goods and services immediately or allow their customers to pay within 30 days. Some provide credit cards or other credit arrangements to make more money from money. We, the customers, provide up to 60 days worth of "free money" (because corporations don't need the money until they pay their suppliers) for corporations to earn interest. No wealth is created in that 30 to 60 days but corporations profit. How crazy is that?

Banking dynasties guard their turf aggressively because interest, with which they've corrupted the political economy, is their lifeblood. Without it, they couldn't create money from nothing to control politics and economics, through corporations, governments, the UN, EU and other supranational bodies including think-tanks and NGOs, global media and academia. Using these levers of power they defend the corruption of usury; eg. Structural Elite controlled universities graduate and promote brainwashed, economist disciples who, like fish swimming in water, are unconscious of the system they inhabit. Bankers have even corrupted religion: most major religions no longer prohibit interest.

Interest incentivises us to consume more than we need. The developed and the developing world are addicted to interest but we're in denial. This addiction is killing us; we need to rid ourselves of the "pusher".

Interest is an economa eating away at our civilisation. To be serious about "saving the planet", we need to focus on the disease, not symptoms. We need to remove the three economic flaws from the system.

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0 #13 James Walter 2015-09-29 19:11
Quoting Ivor Kellock:

If you copy the link by swiping it, it works. If click on the link you go to homeimprovemt page not found.

I watched the simplistic video and went to the site., which was equally simplistic. However, it is a confirmed fact that the populations in the rich countries are falling if you don't count immigrants. Here is a list of fertility rates
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN
Here is a list of the world population growth rate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_growth_rate

it is not declining in the straight line the simplistic films claim. It actually went up from 2009 vs 2012, as a percentage.

The film depends on wealth to curb population growth. But wealth per person burdens the earth more, even if the population stabilizes.

Water is already in short supply with the current population-weal th product. Some say the middle east wars are really about water, not oil. The current capitalist trend is to lower wages by exporting jobs. So if most of the world is left in poverty, the population will continue to grow or at least not shrink - if more of the poor people end up with more wealth, then there is not gain. I dislike simplistic answers, which is all that site had.
 
 
0 #12 Ivor Kellock 2015-09-28 15:36
 
 
0 #11 James Walter 2015-09-28 15:31
Quoting Ivor Kellock:
Tx James whilst we seem to be in a mass extinction questioning how the burgeoning populations in India & China eat meat isn't challenging the question can we feed ourselves but can we feed ourselves meat?

Eating a healthier diet ie mainly or exclusively vegetarian changes the whole dynamic on food production & supply whilst tackling health & wellness issues at the same time

I refer you to bluezones.com/ for diet & permaculturenews.org/2014/09/26/un-small-farmers-agroecology-can-feed-world/ for food production :D


And we should all have mass transportation and the car should go the way of the horse. But the reality is far, far different.
 
 
0 #10 James Walter 2015-09-28 15:29
Quoting Ivor Kellock:
Over Population is a Myth? This video is an eye-opener

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=39&v=Oeu9Qw0Uf8c :-)


bad link
 
 
0 #9 Ivor Kellock 2015-09-28 13:08
Over Population is a Myth? This video is an eye-opener

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=39&v=Oeu9Qw0Uf8c :-)
 
 
0 #8 Ivor Kellock 2015-09-28 11:50
Tx James whilst we seem to be in a mass extinction questioning how the burgeoning populations in India & China eat meat isn't challenging the question can we feed ourselves but can we feed ourselves meat?

Eating a healthier diet ie mainly or exclusively vegetarian changes the whole dynamic on food production & supply whilst tackling health & wellness issues at the same time

I refer you to bluezones.com/ for diet & permaculturenews.org/2014/09/26/un-small-farmers-agroecology-can-feed-world/ for food production :D
 
 
0 #7 James Walter 2015-09-28 11:33
Quoting Ivor Kellock:
James what evidence do you have that we are reaching our planetary limits on population please? Thank you ;-) Quoting James Walter:
While I disagree with his position on global warming, a UN offical slamed the Pope for his birth control position which is the greatest contributor to green house gases. While I do not think there is really global warming, we are reaching our sustainablity limits. Any downturn in food production will have disasterous consequences

only 25 % of sharks and rays are left.
http://www.npr.org/2014/01/22/264579513/ancient-and-vulnerable-25-percent-of-sharks-and-rays-risk-extinction
Current mass extinction
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/03/2/l_032_04.html
Percent hungry or starving
http://www.statisticbrain.com/world-hunger-statistics/
Arable land vs pop growth
http://one-simple-idea.com/Environment1.htm
More: he Global Agro-Ecological Zone study
shows that there are still ample land
resources with potential for crop production
available, but this result needs to be heavily
qualified. Much of the suitable land not yet
Source: Simulation results with World Bank’s ENVISAGE model, from van der Mensbrugghe et al. 2009
in use is concentrated in a few countries
in Latin America and sub-Saharan Africa,
but many countries with growing rural
populations in these regions are extremely
land-scarce, and much of the potential land
is suitable for growing only a few crops that
are not necessarily those for which there
is the highest demand. Also much of the
land not yet in use suffers from constraints
(chemical, physical, endemic diseases, lack
of infrastructure, etc.) that cannot easily
be overcome or that it is not economically
viable to do so.
http://www.fao.org/fileadmin/templates/wsfs/docs/Issues_papers/HLEF2050_Global_Agriculture.pdf
How will 1 billion Indians and Chinese, 450 million Indonesians, etc. get cars and want meat?
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/660S.full
 
 
0 #6 Ivor Kellock 2015-09-28 10:41
James what evidence do you have that we are reaching our planetary limits on population please? Thank you ;-) Quoting James Walter:
While I disagree with his position on global warming, a UN offical slamed the Pope for his birth control position which is the greatest contributor to green house gases. While I do not think there is really global warming, we are reaching our sustainablity limits. Any downturn in food production will have disasterous consequences
 
 
0 #5 James Walter 2015-09-28 09:17
While I disagree with his position on global warming, a UN offical slamed the Pope for his birth control position which is the greatest contributor to green house gases. While I do not think there is really global warming, we are reaching our sustainablity limits. Any downturn in food production will have disasterous consequences
 
 
0 #4 Clive Menzies 2015-09-27 17:21
Quoting Max:
IMO, it is the banks that exploit those who need the money, and are the self appointed power hierarch plus those they choose to join them in their scam. Am I supposed to know automatically what "DCF" means or is its use meant to impress me? There is copious evidence to prove what? Seems like you are missing my point entirely. Of course I realize thst some people consider themselves the the final authority and should not be questioned.
Sorry, I thought you'd read the post which explains DCF.
No-one is suggesting Critical Thinking is the final authority but what we hope to do is to highlight evidence which challenges received wisdom.
 

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